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June 10, 2008

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kim

Oh, I love the logbook. And for the record, I love your freewheeling posts here too. All of it makes me breath deeply. I think just like you on this matter and spent years feeling conflicted about the control/documentation thing. But I have come to peace with the issue based on acknowledging that I am a big geek who needs to document everything for my own pleasure and edification. Nowadays, I don't see any conflict between unschooling and what we are doing and it is because I allowed myself to define what unschooling is to us. It is an idea or a guideline for how to live, otherwise it ends up becoming a dogma. I've met people who are fierce about just what unschooling means and just who is violating the principles of it and I think that kind of thinking is abstract and damaging to people rather than liberating. You are doing it your way Justyna, the way that works to keep you and the kids motivated and happy and having maximum freedom and I think it is wonderful.

Kristen

The uncertainty that I feel is not with how we fit into the definition of unschooling so much as my kids getting older and what I feel is the need to "buckle down" a bit and maybe do some of the stuff we have all avoided just because it's more difficult for them. Just because you don't like to write doesn't mean you should never write anything-not even a list!! We attended an unschoolers conference in January and it really helped me realize how I need to do what is right for my family-whatever it is called. But as my kids get older it's hard to get them to do anything that isn't on their agenda at this point in the game.When kids are young it is great when you suggest things and they re on board-but not so easy when they get older!!

justyna

I guess I'm also less conflicted about the definition of unschooling, than the pressure to make sure my kids learn what they "should" know. This pressure is both external, and internal, coming from me.
In my more enlightened moments, I believe that getting them to do things just because I think they should is completely counterproductive anyway, and won't lead them to the love of whatever that thing is (math, writing, touch-typing, etc.)
But I'm not always feeling enlightened, and there is a part of me that wonders if they will ever be able to function as adults unless they master those skills.
I guess what helps me with that dilemma, is that I am fully convinced that we never stop learning. After all, I didn't learn to type or drive until I was in my twenties. Although I excelled at math throughout my school career, I use or remember little of it today. At the same time, I picked up many new skills along the way that I do rely on in my daily life.
Whether we like it or not, to some extent we must struggle with the idea of giving our children the skills that will help them conform to what society expects, in the event they find themselves in a situation that requires conformity. Because as unschoolers, we tend to disdain conformity (at least to an extent), preparing our children for the life of conformity is problematic.

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